order urispas online with mastercard taking buspar and alcohol is there a singulair generic equivalent piroxicam dosage canine generic flovent 110 mcg abilify over the counter writing drugs how to get lipitor delivery without buy abilify where to buy eldepryl without a prescription mycelex g dosage instructions coumadin to buy in england alfa flucon uk sale cheapest sominex paypal generic for cipro hc otic singulair for men sale in uk can i get zoloft where purchase minocin buy acticin online mexico no prescription comprar glucovance en argentina viagra cost walgreens brand amaryl buy where can i buy levothyroxine in uk buy beconase aq tablets uk zanaflex tablets purchase on line lopressor mexico companies only cheap medicines online uk precose brand positioning buy floxin pills in the india retin a 0,05 refills mentat mg mexico order clomid on line india midamor medication order gout colchicine cost buy zyloprim online usa i want to pay some malegra dxt buy zyvox uk bactroban usa flagyl er roche precio argentina avapro for sale philippines buy oratane online cheap ceftin online shipping canadian pharmacy zyrtec requip supplies ltd doxycycline where can i buy diamox cheap canada pharmacy buy bystolic in usa purchase actonel on line in canada valacyclovir hcl 500mg tablet isoniazid side effects weight gain buy erythromycin online from canada where to buy singulair in canada safely imitrex reviews do i need a prescription for benicar buy 100 mg amitriptyline i want to pay some plavix estro drug in mexico pharmacy diflucan comments aciclovir pills buy what is prevacid used for canadianpharmacy com legit duphalac shortage 2012 overnight free consultation buy astelin amitriptyline online ordering non prescription nexium fast olanzapine deleviery buy bupron sr tablets asacol online without rx diarex brand pills for sale ditropan price list of tesco stores selling dramamine can order lasuna canada silagra 25 mg price where to buy dramamine online without rx skyrim hearthfire how to buy livestock chloroquine to buy in england billig dramamine online kaufen female cialis on line in the usa metoclopramide reviews what type of drug is xenical ondansetrona for men in usa aviane 28 online in canada nootropil on line in the usa over counter lady era diflucan price in india cheap aciphex canadian pharmacy oral prednisolone pregnancy buy propecia online uk benicar cheap uk walmart drug list vermox side effects uk tretinoin 0,025 pills sweat lipitor canadian source meridia skyrim floxin 20 mg what does nitroglycerin smell like diflucan price india billig casodex online kaufen micardis 20 mg side effects retin a 0 05 canadian source metronidazole gel contraindications bob dole viagra commercial periactin over the counter uk med cab celexa is mail order haldol safe where to buy cheap generic penegra buy glucophage tablets uk phenergan iv rxlist billig trial erection packs 2 online kaufen zertalin cheap canada pharmacy antivert usa cvs prices nymphomax where can i buy it novo digoxin canada pharmacy lipitor generico sarafem user reviews tamoxifen overnight what does flovent treat levlen to buy in australia generic orlistat 120mg buy aviane 28 online amazon exelon patch 10 price buying vpxl using paypal ginseng over the counter india levitra professional uk online amoxiline online india crestor on line in the mexico buy cymbalta 60 mg online diprolene fast uk motrin buy online uk buy anafranil pills in the us can you split crestor pills is cialis prescribed for women can i buy nitroglycerin over the counter duprost fast canada buy snovitra super power no prescription health illness and medicine in canada 5th ed low price flomax uk quiero comprar reglan getting tricor in australia prednisone canada overnight delivery compazine in canada how to get glucophage in australia asacol for sale usa donde comprar ranitidine order lamisil cream voveran sr without prescription pills which drug class does aspirin belong to what is imitrex plavix prescription program knee arthritis treatment injections propecia from merck buy zithromax online sno prescription uk cabaser medicine online buy cheap online prescription allopurinol himcolin mexico no prescription buy meloxicam enolat pills in the canada cheap strattera mg is there a shortage of cafergot aspirin for sale ireland zyloprim generico online buy blopress plus sildenafil canada online where can i buy capoten online without a prescription lanzamiento victoza mexico what is ciprofloxacin hcl 500 used for cost of seroquel erection packs 2 medication side effects buy cheap levitra no prescription can you buy probalan over the counter in germany prednisone wanted online review buy bentyl perth australia viagra men vs. women can you buy protonix over the counter low cost metformin buy naprosyn online with out prescription buy ephedraxin online safely where to buy propecia paracetamol con metocarbamol overnight pharmacy delivery cheap zyprexa cod remeron 100mg cheap canadian pharmacy arava metformin online in uk indian pharmacy indinavir domperidone 10mg tablet treatment where do i himcolin in canada medrol gonflement visage januvia sales 2012 shallaki where to get purchase lozol in usa retin a 0 025 online bestellen what is calan bosch like purchase azurette on line in uk bupropionum noprescrition needed usa online pharmacy difference between 50mg and 100mg viagra prilosec comprare ebey medicine penegra citalopram spain order zyvox from mexico without prescription levothroid sale from canadian company where to buy prilosec online without rx avalide printable coupons klipal codeine sublingual dosage can you get clopidogrelum tofranil on line in the canada canada drugs omnicef with prescription remeron shoppers drug mart online pharmacy levoxyl chloromycetin in croatia doksazosin lek mexico companies only buy differin 3 online generic casodex price reviews on vardenafilum sinequan now zofran on line in the canada ondansetron odt 8 mg price buy brand vermox retin a 0,025 prices cvs is it safe to order lotrel no prescription viagra professional discount drugs inc what is cipro medication for buy zyvox in india online canadian tenormin tablet purchase liposafe cheap buy requip tablets canada disulphiram drug schedule can you get glucovance best site get nitroglycerin lowest price lotensin generic lipitor walmart buy glucotrol xl uk buy arzomicin inhaler canada what is viagra made up of buy indocin online india best site to buy robaxin purchase cheap fincar online prescription buy topamax bulk antivert in the uk now acheter norvasc youtube viagra russian group demadex cheap india pharmacy digoxin for sale philippines non prescription procardia should you buy cialis professional in ireland canadian pharmacy esperal online from usa fincar birth control online uk now co uk product index kamagra srbija buying lithium from canada no prescription where can i purchase orlistatum how easy is it to get a propecia prescription cost of citalopram walgreens rumalaya forte online meds is seroquel a class c drug half inderal la 80 mg anxiety free or low cost antabuse how to by zyprexa online indian generics online keppra no prescription pharmacy canada quickest silagra order retin a 0,05 online no prescription with a visa claritin tablets ingredients aceon through erbumine tablets best sites purchase viagra generic leukeran us glucophage mg usa dipyridamole without a prescription from us malarone boots pharmacy online tretinoin 0,025 generic uk what types of toradol are there azithromycin z pack breastfeeding female cialis overseas costco pharmacy aciphex price i want to pay some prednisolona can you drink on clarithromycin nhs metformin indian can you buy menosan in ireland uk version of doxazosin tamoxifen online sales aspirin dose for acute chest pain ovral l no prescription needed canadian online pharmacy buy generic pulmicort online with prescription cheap detrol uk roxithromycin 150mg side effects venlor lawsuit buy generic snovitra super power voveran sr no prescription needed how to get propecia prescription? can order triamterenum online what does furosemide do for athletes prilosec nexium equivalent generic robaxin images is there a shortage of orlistar web prescriptions assistance foundation buy fincar online no prescription united states where do i mevacor in canada pharmacy has best price retino a cream 0,05 aygestin where to buy in canada nexium usa sale buy cheap isoniazid using pay pal buy zebeta without rx nolvadex overnight pharmacy vistaril australia pharmacy serpina online from india colospa generic mexico clozaril pills generic pills for glucovance tamoxifen in canada order quibron t online no prescription with a visa order glucotrol xl rx purchase furosemide online no prescription ventolin online pharmacy uk lexapro online bestellen motilium drugstore com pricing where to buy fucidin drugs online lamisil online pharmacy uk pharmacies online that sell celebrex purchase metformin uk trental without a prescription from uk acai berry site coupons zydis without a prescription from india how to order serophene norvasc 10 mg tablet picture dostinex buy online pharmacy no prescription adhd pharmacy mexico diltiazem mail order cialis jelly compazine without insurance erection packs 2 without a prescription zyprexa no prescription needed tadalis mexico no prescription generic purinethol usa pharmacy comprar kamagra en mano en madrid how to get viagra from your doctor viagra cheap india pharmacy colchicine drugs online purchases what does calcium carbonate decompose into apo amoxicillin 500mg alcohol serophene success stories zyban uk online cymbalta 100mg buy pharmacy has best price cordarone lipothin no prrescription aygestin lowest price online raciper cheap canada pharmacy himcocid no prescription compare prices buy actonel online no prescription canada ortho cyclen online from india where do i tizanidina in australia sildenafil citrate online usa no prescription relafen mexico pharmacy lansoprazole dose in infants lansoprazol side effects long term use zebeta on line in the uk nordette cheap uk pharmacy shuddha guggulu generic orlistat mg canada proventil inhaler prices canada buy triamterenum without prescription buy aprovel tablets australia where to buy desyrel online india cheap generic benemid prozac to purchase without a prescription cost of keflex suspension what is hydrea drugs order zestoretic online no prescription with a echeck west indies vs new zealand live streaming cricket ordering florinef india cardura pills online in the mexico purchase medrol on line in uk what does allegra hives used to treat aciclovir online coupon code no prescription rumalaya forte sale artane india sale buy cheap procepia duprost online pharmacy shipped to canada actos spain vermox over counter ordering compazine here in canada promethazine tablets uses liv 52 price india urispas in the uk buy nizagara patch depakine chrono pill shortage generic paroxetine manufacturers get glucophage toronto buy cialis professional online with mastercard haridra online pharmacy capoten no rx key pred order by phone zyprexa tablets split chloroquine generic 2013 drugs isoptin drug in canada pharmacy tetracycline generico online anteovin prices can you order pravachol actoplus met buy online uk cheapest serophene in the uk delta cortef uk brand name buy without prescriptions viagra online lamictal generic for valtrex cost benemid in singapore uk pharmacies online that sell riperdal best place to order medrol in us motilium dosage suspension oristal usa zoloft how to buy cialis sublingual mg canadian rx vermox mg mexico order etodolac from australia without prescription purchase metformin suhagra mg canadian rx fluoxetina generic mexico buy lasilix online with out prescription lozol lawsuit canada what is prednisone 10 mg used to treat best price viagra super active lamisil tablets from india purchase cialis in us pure hoodia gordonii diet pills where to get methotrexate zydis without prescrip fosamax plus d cal tablets viagra canadian prices phone in order for duetact where do i actos in uk albenza online order cheap altace mg aricept pill shop discount code where to purchase disulfiramo how to counteract sexual side effects of lexapro max mendelsohn how to buy acnetane online himplasia uk buy antabuse order online no prescription where can i get some brafix female viagra without prescription medication sildenafila for purchase without a prescription probalan canada prescription tetracycline how to buy cheapest liv 52 paypal amoxil 250 mg 5 ml canada and micardis effexor price canada clonidine mg buy co op pharmacy jobs northern ireland canadian valaciclovir what is prescription lamisil for how often can you take viagra glyset italiano buy remeron for daily use buy vermox online overnight delivery baclofen online pharmacies with out prescription feldene mg buy online pharmacy uk erection packs 3 testosterone therapy for men cons what is prednisona made of how to get deltasone in australia leukeran without a prescription from australia buy pct steroids alternative to nexium for acid reflux florida renagel can buy fluticanose online long time side effects evista motilium tablets pregnancy discount diprosone from canada hydrodiuril sold over counter buy fluoxetina online india no prescription bupropion no prescription compare prices tegretol cause weight gain key pred mg order maximum dose of lasix drip buy albendazole mg online for do people abuse skelaxin how much does a clomid prescription cost how to get tretinoin 0 05 on line terramycin delivery uk order cafergot 1mg canada cheap actos 100 mg roaccutane over the counter will viagra ever otc take lasix bodybuilding show bupron side effects long term use order ephedraxin without rx buy prescriptions online cheaper vasotec discount voucher buy zyloprim online from mexico how to take tofranil brafix comprar buy tricor in singapore buy yasmin tablets mexico reminyl discount anteovin generic canada metronidazole flagyl forte 500mg dose retin a ge online usa over the counter aleve ordering zenegra viagra online prescription where to buy ciplox with echeck prednisone drug schedule best carvedilolo prices effexor xr without a prescription from canada best pharmacy to order estrace buy ventolin online best price for real dutas buy midamor with a mastercard 600mg gabapentin generic neurontin generic viagra rated by vipps can i make tadacip order isoptin cheap mail order lynoral buy brand zocor price of cialis for daily use no prescription proventil sale where can i get fucidin cream voltaren canada companies only zenegra 100 review methotrexate cost per month generic sustiva sales cheap metoclopramide pills online pharmacy buy reglan zedd birth control online mexico actos us sales 2009 aurochem laboratories pvt ltd mumbai renalka 100mg buy tretinoin pills buy buy micardis online no prescription uk levitra 10 mg tablet non prescription prinivil caprysin birth control online canada cheap orlistat india ventolin accuhaler when to use can you order lasix what are the side effects of cordarone advair diskus generic 100 55 lowest price lexapro 20 mg the best diet pills to lose weight fast for women buying trental using paypal allopurinol generic india retin a gel 0 1 generic can you really buy medication online side effects of clomiphene citrate clomid purchase plavix in usa buy online casodex generic buy mebendazole albendazole over counter best place to buy tofranil in usa purchase valtrex on line in india online pharmacy celapram buy myambutol using pay pal medrol dosepak tablets from buy evista compared to fosamax valtrex tablet purchase in us the online drugstore lotensin pilex tablete cijena worldwide pharmacy trimox riperdal from canada without rx flunil canada pharmacy generic lexapro availability aprovel online pharmacies with out prescription actos alternative medicine diabetes leukeran canada online no prescription blackmores ginkgo brahmi 40 tablets cialis and your liver beta val pills online in the canada generic clomid cost what does astelin side effects nasal health canada tenormin leukeran max dose proventil sublingual dosage zerit canada head office discount kamagra of canada comprar colchicine online cardizem medication healthy heart rate 30 year old male 100 mg synthroid side effects esomeprazole omeprazole comparison lexapro for sale online canada medshop metronidazole uk next day delivery where can i buy geriforte tablets aldactone limited india what is lotrel used for beat way to order ciplox kirkland minoxidil 5 how much does flomax cost purchasing robaxin online retin a gel 0,1 from canada without rx costco pharmacy mestinon price overnight buy amaryl prilosec cost costco terramycin spray no prescription xenical sale uk crestor order online no prescription mircette medicine online dapoxetine on the internet where do i dipyridamole in australia how to get free samples of viagra online order ampicilina without rx buy generic orlistat online with prescription cheapest place to buy disulfiramo buy nordette online no prescription usa buy genuine toprol xl uk key pred generic wikipedia drugs ordering toradol uk generic clonidine medicines buying apcalis sx express cheap viagra 100mg but online zestoretic drug in germany pharmacy viagra now mending hearts how long does it take for zovirax to work on cold sores amitriptyline cheap canada pharmacy buy artane bulk medicine for gout allopurinol ayurslim drug in usa pharmacy zantac no prescription canada actonel medication for osteoporosis canadian pharmacy albendazole buy dutasteride 0.5 mg avodart glucophage tablets side effects zyloprim mail order india expired zyrtec medicine what is toprol xl 50 mg used for donepezil 10 mg generic viagra pricing cheap fucidin sale uk buy cipla products online terramycin eye ointment for sale oracea cheap india pharmacy topamax coupons 2011 united support services matthews nc trazodone use for dogs canadian drug company bupropion buy ralista online pharmacy lamictal no prescription needed where to buy ashwagandha plants order isotretin online purchase generic ciprofloxacina disulfiramum online ordering orlistar buy no prescription decadron pas cher italie lamisil dosage for ringworm buy azitromicina no prescription .05 tretinoin and wrinkles uk kamagra buy female cialis in usa benicar online pharmacies with out prescription buy himcolin gel in bangladesh what are the side effects of the drug femara cialis sublingual pricing order levitra professional online without rx buy ciplox next day no prescription erythromycin uk online protonix purchase over the counter drugs similar to riperdal brand brafix buy what is prednisolone tablets 25mg cialis sublingual on line in the usa uk version of levlen order claravis pills buy haridra with paypal alavert over the counter india phone in order for fluoxetina buy demadex hong kong monster job search phenamax buy online que es hyzaar forte fluoxetina next day what is minipress drugs side effects of metformin slow release tablets discount code for dipyridamole erection packs 2 noprescrition needed canada online pharmacy pill rx health order aloprim products flunil from india furosemide to buy in the uk sumycin drug class cam you buy diflucan over the counter in canada aygestin india sale purchase lantus on line in mexico purchase nizoral 2 shampoo accutane no prescription compare prices pill rx health riperdal products lozol medication on line can i buy levitra over the counter nitrofurantoin price uk zetia precio mexico cheapest place to buy revatio digoxin pill canadian messi stats 12 13 where can i get risperdal from what is buspar side effects buy rumalaya gel no prescription ceftin prices walgreens where to buy aricept with amex buy albenda online pharmacy generic frumil buy canada can you buy sepibest over the counter in germany is it illegal to order generic extendaquin user reviews for effexor xr drugs depression med cab detrol medicine for abortion of 1 month pregnancy in philippines cheap cleocin us doxazosin without rx zantac buy india buy american ginseng seeds detrol 20mg tab raciper in usa benicar tablets olmesartan medoxomil wellbutrin xl price walgreens where can i buy aldactone in canada order aldactone online no prescription with a visa how to get nolvadex or clomid femara suppositories buy billig grifulvin v online kaufen diclofenac tablets 150 mg terramycin usa pharmacy reputable viagra online pharmacy celapram for sale uk viagra sublingual medicine buy estradiol valerate online overnight delivery probalan online in usa tretinoin trusted online drug stores in canada florinef acetate 0.1 mg purchase minomycin on line in mexico cabgolin buy mexico order non generic viagra super active olanzapine discounts codes acivir pills ships from india walgreens drugstore.com merger where to dipyridamole do need prescription viagra canada order fluticanose uk pharmacy safe florinef no precription ordering brand amoxil zyrtec 10 mg tablet dosage cilest online in us long time side effects olanzapine lamictal generic uk ginseng capsules india cheap rogaine 2 free delivery diflucan rx info best place buy carafate pct duetact for dogs buy uroxatral online coupon code buy aciphex tablets purchase zebeta online order levitra no prescription online drug buy capoten online from australia depakine chrono without a prescription from uk order aricept online no prescription with a mastercard overnight aldactone online saturday delivery can you buy cheap generic singulair order diclofenac online no prescription with a echeck how much does otc zyrtec cost clomid buy on line where do i viagra sublingual in india order cialis sublingual cheap buy cabaser online amazon order cipro uk pharmacy dostinex 2 tablet voltaren medication used buy abilify tablets buy codeine cough syrup canada cheap usa buy zyprexa clozaril mexico no prescription purchase zoloft cheap metformin hydrochloride 850 mg tablets amitriptyline overnight mg research grade cefadroxil original prozac online buy robaxin online in the united states without a prescription how to get propecia cheap etodolac birth control online us ranitidine generic mexico taking 2 diflucan pills janumet doctors online can you only get etodolac on prescription mmm got some drugs pineapple express comprar fml forte original brand viagra pills online in the mexico himplasia 40 mg pharmacy best online pharmacy generic trial erection packs 3 buy generic propecia pilex western australia lopressor spain elimite online pay paypal can i buy alli diet pill online from canada? yasmin mogahed facebook novo digoxin pills buy cabaser over counter uk where do i bupropion in usa buy finpecia in singapore where to start yasmin 21 can you take tricor daily voltaren 100 suppositories can i get lexapro viagra jelly without prescription canada cheap speman usa saroten 10 mg nebenwirkungen free or low cost etodolac buying motilium using paypal buy cialis sublingual pills in the us crestor buy online uk ampicilina brand positioning buy purinethol uk what is prednisone tablets where to buy reglan online uk erexin v online canadian aloprim pills online in the mexico what does zoloft do if you snort it lowest price rogaine 5 block canadian pharmacy emails glucotrol xl pills drugstore maxalt 10mg where to buy without prescription brahmi mail order india ordering aripiprazola methotrexate medication order buy birth control online from canada low cost premarin trazodone canada sale minipress side effects uk viagra plus online usa vivus qsymia launch hydrodiuril drug class what does procardia do for contractions ortho cyclen medication side effects ondansetrona medication side effects reminyl shop net haldol tablets purchase on line ordering trial erection packs 2 mexico wow new allies quest keflex australia companies only donde comprar las pastillas cytotec en medellin buspar online in canada testosterone therapy dosage and administration over the counter alternative to lisinopril best price for suhagra there generic available zyprexa does over the counter prilosec work best site for sinequan online no prescription uk for tricor generic ginseng for sale on line what does zyprexa zydis do prednisona 50 mg nombre comercial riperdal online from usa what is allied health professionals united where to buy unisom free online price increase naprosyn what is azithromycin 250mg used to treat us pharmacies online that sell v gel cheap propecia delivered overnight very cheap phexin frusemide buy uk cardizem user reviews emsam shoppers drug mart how to use promethazine suppositories elocom online legally carvedilolo side effects long term use cheapest place to buy seasonique cost of meloxicam enolat without insurance roxithromycin germany buy amoxycillin tablets australia american call center buy ortho tri cyclen with paypal geriforte daily use reviews can you buy ephedraxin best place to buy tretinoin 0,05 in uk bactrim tablets dosage walgreens 24 hour pharmacy near me fluss 40 prices at costco trileptal costco emoquette buy uk can you buy actoplus over the counter in germany donde comprar celexa red viagra c200 generic diovan in canada purchase singulair on line in canada doxycycline hcl 100mg fluss 40 delivery uk finax online shipping plant vigra reviews retino a cream 0,025 roche precio argentina buy bupropion xl canada orlistat from canada with no prescription inderal generico online indian pharmacies xanax betnovate locion capilar costo where can i purchase rosuvastatin how much is kytril tablets liv 52 over the couter half price vantin clozaril uk no prescription buy flagyl with no prescription what are the side effects of prilosec buy pink viagra australia hyzaar pill shop discount code capoten to buy in the canada without a prescription buy online viagra usa duetact roche precio argentina comprar serevent portugal legal buy metoclopramide online canada retino a cream 0,05 mg usa consumer reports generic viagra can zoloft pills be crushed discount topamax 50mg noroxin pricing buy hoodia gordonii seeds imitrex oral generic name lasix tablets what are they for cvs pharmacy online application drug market order zenegra viagra in den usa kaufen take estrofem ivf stieva a sublingual dosage rythmol sr buy canada lioresal perth australia phenergan weight loss pills legal buy oxytrol online canada accutane order canada do boots sell viagra over the counter tesco cvs prilosec cost how to buy zyvox in canada buy generic clonidine online kamagra oral jelly generic usa wigraine without a prescription from mexico elavil order order procardia pills brand levitra drug in germany pharmacy hyzaar medication coupons buy bupropionum mg where do i quetiapinum in usa serpina coupon code synthroid india generic what does ventolin contain cheap mobicosa pharmacy no prescription pharmacy forum how to buy fosamax in london order maxaman overnight what does mevacor look like common side effects sustiva how to buy lantus shop costco online without membership real cialis cheap buy acivir pills online india how much trazodone for sleep is bupropion available in new zealand snorting gabapentin to get high cheap prinivil claritin weight gain tricor brands india vantin sublingual dosage buy augmentin online amazon purchase kelnor in uk best blood pressure medication for diabetics buy klipal codeine online without a prescription otc inhaler overnight pharmacy nolvadex elavil from canada with no prescription brand name isoniazid online cialis sold over counter canada buy citalopram online uk skelaxin reviews minocycline 100 mg twice a day retin a 0,05 online pharmacy uk where can i get apo clopidogrel from isotretin discount voucher buy actos online no prescription uk online pharmacy buy arjuna decadron tablets dose nexium 40 mg online without a script buy depakote saturday delivery disulfiram reaction mechanism of action voltaren online without rx american medical association acai berry suppliers of ethionamide in us where to purchase ginseng orlistar drug canadian pharmacy research grade amantadine discount seasonique from usa lipothin dosage recommended metoclopramide 10mg tablets for breastfeeding where could i buy bupropion without prescription wild ginseng plants for sale order skelaxin on line canada buy luvox mg online for is it legal to buy viagra safe lamictal buy where to buy bupropion ointment where to buy trial erection packs 2 online without rx cheap propranolol 80 mg purchase glucovance online no prescription medrol mg tablet inhouse drugstore uk valtrex vs acyclovir herpes suppression nolvadex from china hytrin spain priligy generic uk where purchase viagra soft 25mg viagra online where to buy viagra in shops generic propecia to germany online no prescription uk for finpecia buy unique hoodia online diovan online cheap ralista delivery canine heartworm medication no prescription fosamax medication interactions accutane prescription window zedd from canada online pharmacy technician certification exam minocycline acne reviews order fluticanose online no prescription with a mastercard brand kamagra gold for sale where to buy nolvadex serm buy clavamox capsules proventil in us meilleur prix cialis buy medrol online canada prevacid prescription help generic cafergot overnite shipping banana muffins how much does xanax cost in mexico cost of decadron injection riperdal buy usa where can i purchase ortho tri cyclen no prescription aloprim ciprofloxacina online in usa liquid viagra aciclovir delivery uk albendazole to purchase without a prescription lady era no prescription lexapro 20 mg vs 10 mg levaquin over the couter buy levitra paypal remeron non perscription countries cheapest locations to live in the uk fucidin cream for acne buy medrol 16mg canadian pharmacy online speman aspirin no prescription canada zantac sale from canadian company cheap aldactone free delivery where could i buy curacne without prescription buy 100 pure acai berry female viagra canada sale over the counter medicine that acts as diamox kosovarja seksi ragipi what is nitrofurantoin mcr what is norvasc glucovance brands india thyrox delivery side effects of ciprofloxacin hcl duetact prescription only diovan hct in canadian pharmacies what is aripiprazola pills used for natrol acai 1000 mg levothroid canadian online best place to buy simvastatina tegretol reviews bipolar disorder mens meds online review indian generics online triamterene sublingual provera buy online india cipla pharmaceuticals india online minocin purchase januvia generic wikipedia drugs speedy kamagra co uk buying glucophage using paypal bupropion dosage for anxiety how long does it take for atrovent to start working medicine like asacol clopidogrelum drug canadian pharmacy why has erexor been discontinued amlodipin results forum estrofem canada sale what is benadryl pills used for zetia sublingual dosage is there a generic medicine for premarin buy cheap propecia online forum buy dipyridamole from canada buy fml forte pills long time side effects mirapex zyrtec ulotka 10 mg acquistare strattera in italia purchase shallaki in mexico buy viagra in malaysia buy deltasone online canada revatio mg uk comprar haldol pela internet 100 25 for sale hyzaar online pantoprazole generic otc abilify shoppers drug mart canadian prescriptions for sexual enhancement motrin dosage by weight aygestin mg tablet half price maxalt florida accuran buy ceftin online no prescription uk actavis promethazine codeine canada viagra jelly 10 mg tenormin sale discount us pharmacy online cialis soft how to use finasteride 5mg lotrisone no prescription reviews drugs similar to retino a cream 0,05 flagyl 400 mg what is it for buy erexin v pills in the india cheapest lotrisone paypal furosemide 40mg tab myl cheap torsemide 40 mg buy combivent in uk order orlistato online no prescription with a visa lopressor mexico pharmacy cialis generico tadafial soft paroxetine for sale canada best online pharmacy generic zyban ciprofloxacina no prescription needed canadian online pharmacy order sarafem from mexico without prescription tamoxifen birth control online australia where levlen purchasing coumadin online uk speman reviews buy alesse online in the united states without a prescription kamagra for sale in uk minipress order by phone legal buy malegra fxt online canada purchase probalan pills prospect furosemide 40 mg styplon pharmacy coupons can you order microzide what does phenergan tablets active ingredient vpxl in canada buy bystolic tablets us stieva a over the counter drugs reglan without there cheap where to buy nizoral 2 percent shampoo what is trial erection packs 2 mg used to treat buy flomax tablets us seroquel lawsuit weight gain cialis vs viagra 2008 online buy abilify medication price norvasc pills online in the india what is orlistatum tablets geriforte syrup reviews buy over the counter zestril online female cialis to buy in the uk without a prescription to buy amaryl in uk oristal to purchase without a prescription fincar generic india novolog robaxin tablets 40mg over the counter antibiotics for bacterial conjunctivitis thyrohormone shelf life novo digoxin medicine children is generic actonel effective olanzapine canadian pharmacy online zyloprim buy lopid 40 how much is zestoretic tablets can i order nolvadex no prescription in the usa buy viagra florida generic ciplox buy canada zitromax canada drug store can we trust brand viagra online very cheap indocin bupropionum brand positioning order zedd on line mexico hyzaar generic side effects anacin delivery london pfizer generic division viagra for sale in london flovent over the counter uk diclofenac sodium side effects pregnancy pletal reviews and dosage the online drugstore keftab valaciclovir for sale uk can you buy diprolene viagra 100mg canadian pharmacy estrofem not generic mexico pharmacy accutane acne after accutane female buy cialis sublingual cheap order naprosyn from usa without prescription bupropion in usa desyrel fast usa online pharmacy pariet dapoxetine fast mexico donde comprar suhagra en colombia depakine chrono generic usa discount cozaar from canada is it safe to order benadryl buy plavix on line no prescription acquistare lasix in italia order furosemide in femcare medication side effects lotensin canada pharmacy buy generic amaryl with bonus donde comprar abilify como comprar avodart where can i get ventolin from what is generic for levaquin what is the medication augmentin used for arimidex 1 mg tablet is generic prinivil available in usa gyne lotrimin canada drugs biaxin spain over counter atorlip 5 pills online in the canada buy duphalac online australia no prescription can you buy finasteride online emoquette prices usa how to get motilium on line genuine leukeran best price glucofage birth control online canada can i buy viagra over the counter in melbourne safe place order extendaquin maximum dilantin dosage ventolin cfc free inhaler 100 mcg what is combivent prescribed for buyers of blopress canada buy prevacid new zealand online benicar hct medicine birth control pills terramycin how to take nexium mg femara mais barato how much is albendazole tablets can you buy viagra cyprus misoprost birth control online mexico buy mobicarte in uk prednisona pills buy cabaser spain haldol with paypal payment canada buy tinidazolum without prescription clonidine delivery london seroflo without rx atacand coupons effexor xr dosage increase side effects citalopram on line for sale no script triamterene 37.5 mg side effects levlen tablets for sale best malegra dxt prices were to buy nolvadex no prescription fast delivery buy over the counter cefadroxil online can i drink alcohol while on bactrim ds triamterene hctz wiki usa buy actonel without prescription nitrofurantoin over the counter india ordering viagra customer support delivery purchase do you need rx phenergan toradol without subscription buy advair diskus paypal where is the safest place to buy viagra online trial erection packs 1 buy online mexico betapace shop net online pharmacy amoxil tramadolfordogsnoprescription where can i get chloromycetin retin a ge refills buy beconase aq pills in the uk sertralina over the counter usa printable bystolic coupon generic names for phenergan tamoxifen tablets for men onlain filmer generic plavix made in india what drug category is zyprexa cialis sales 2011 viagra buy viagra professional online india no prescription seroquel dosage for bipolar revista online natura 2012 viagra generika kaufen erfahrungen lamisil cheap us pharmacy order oristal from india without prescription long time side effects zofran fincar buy online us amoxicillin over the counter uk over the counter drugs similar to trileptal purchase amoxil on line in the uk indian pharmacy ciplox buy diovan online amazon canadian alli online needed buy 6 dramamine pills no place to buy alli diet pill cost of amaryl order fincar from canada without prescription duprost roche precio argentina levitra plus medication side effects minocycline shortage 2012 mentax pharmacy prices list buy cefixime have no prescription generic viagra sales approved pharmacy normal dose of nitrofurantoin for uti buy alesse canada pharmacy online himcolin pill shortage xenical best price australia where to buy tizanidinum with amex research grade kelnor tretinoin 0 05 sale buy alli over the counter buy levothroid online us no prescription what is beconase aq drugs buy duprost online cheap buy cialis sublingual online india trazodone for sleep dosage what is the generic for wellbutrin xl buy lukol paypal accepted noble drugs pvt ltd clavamox mg uk does alesse 21 cause weight gain motrin no prescription overnight delivery purchase dilantin canada curacne generic name norvasc now flagyl drug in mexico pharmacy generic diflucan fluconazole tulasi prices cvs there generic drug evista sorbitrate without prescription how to buy thyroxine in london order paroxetine from mexico without prescription vibrox capsules 100mg buy cheap alphagan using pay pal generic doksazosin lek switzerland serious side effects of topamax buy benicar astrailia buy lantus tablets how to buy ampicillin in canada citalopram and viagra where to get live scan in san diego valtrex next day shipping phenergan tablets 25mg dosage what does risperdal do diclofenac uk next day delivery best price trimox buy flexeril no prescription buying viagra in turkey alti doxycycline pills online in the india buy synthroid in australia order voltaren online how much will nootropil cost metformin lactic acidosis risk calcium carbonate for men sale in uk safe tamoxifen buy oestrogel maximum dosage sale dosage order himcolin online buy suprax online from australia cialis professional 20mg pills use ortho tri cyclen coupon online buy risperdal online mexico no prescription costco pharmacy generic drug prices tadalis sx pills sweat citalopram drugstore com pricing lamisil fast india comprar dramamine pela internet cheap lisinopril 5mg tablets furosemide tablets amlodipinbesilat generic mexico terramycin delivered to your home comprar vpxl discount albenza mg doksazosin lek over the counter india ver pelicula habana blues online gratis buy generic viagra jelly wigraine buy no prescription buy advair diskus online overnight dutas dosage too high meclizine from europe allopurinol discount card anacin 20mg tab cheap unique hoodia prinivil doctors online ditropan online mexico health canada estrace american malegra fxt keppra shop net buy keflex with no script endep medicine side effects canadian pharmacy online frusemide exelon careers opportunities buy demadex mg online for lipitor recall 2010 thyrox generic uk medazole mg order sildenafil citrate no prescription doxycycline 100mg capsules use pharmacy buy drugs naprosyn januvia spain otomax over the counter australia metronidazole online india buy actos online usa pioglitazone crestor tablet sale evecare online uk inderal mail order order diarex online participating pharmacies lipitor copay card buy lopid pills in the uk tizanidinum sold over counter seroquel dose for insomnia what class of medication is omnicef etodolac uk buy requip uk next day delivery styplon online in us arimidex drugs low cost buy generic buspar online without buy quibron t in singapore eldepryl buy online india estrofem shoppers drug mart metronidazole flagyl forte medication eldepryl western australia buy lantus online australia no prescription advair online pharmacies with out prescription brands propranolol india lady era medicine online kelnor prescription coupon cheap erythromycin mg bactroban to buy in england eulexin online uk nitrofurantoin price india purchase erection packs 1 mg dapoxetine mg price geriforte over the counter uk metoprolol side effects heartburn thyroxine noprescrition needed uk online pharmacy acquisto suhagra sicuro online minomycin medication buy birth control pills online uk how to take yasmin birth control pills actoplus met new zealand uk pharmacies online that sell xenical recreational viagra usage shelf life of ampicillin capsules how to buy betnovate disulphiram shortage where can i order malegra fxt buy salbutamol tablets usa disulfiramum without a script is generic albenda available in usa how long does ceftin stay in your body generic plavix may 2012 pharmacy mexico diclofenac gel canada order terramycin cost of aldactone what is the drug paroxetine for where do i buy kamagra oral jelly prednisone drugs online purchases antabuse drug in fr pharmacy esperal drug in fr pharmacy erection packs 2 weight gain procardia canada wigraine uk next day delivery safety of canadian prescription drugs zetia ordering no prescription lopid no prescription overnight delivery prozac uk buy buy dramamine online in the united states without a prescription canadian pharmacy online keflex overnight valtrex pharmacy online us oxybutyninum express canada discount ecard for actos is it safe to order serevent generic fluconazol buy canada cipralex for men in usa comprar xenical costa rica viagra brazil lipitor for you participating pharmacy diabecon without a prescription can you buy cheap generic alphagan brimonidine how to use brahmi capsules buy asacol mg online for tretinoin 0 05 over counter health canada effexor xr canadian drug company shallaki propecia billig kaufen are online drugs from india safe generic artane italiano does accutane help seborrheic dermatitis buy kamagra 100mg oral jelly australia viagra como comprar bayas de acai what are the side effects of sildenafil citrate buy duprost online without a prescription can you buy exelon femcare canada paypal doksazosin lek on line no script buy fincar online india no prescription pharmacy online australia reviews suhagra mg usa hydrochlorothiazide usa pharmacy buy actoplus met paypal accepted online generic nitroglycerin erection packs 3 india buy flucazole bulk canada pill store order generic bactroban what is etabus for floxin for discount buy elocon cream australia i want to pay some viagra sublingual is there a shortage of benadryl worldwide pharmacy propecia riomont medication online zyprexa on line in the canada astelin cost in canada where to buy deltasone prescription non generic erexin v online bupron cheap canada pharmacy iovate health sciences 100 pure premium hoodia review canada and aldactone buy liverpool tickets match buying deltasone express glycomet brand order what is lisinopril hctz 20 25 mg keppra rx is ventolin legal in uk are there any over the counter inhalers for copd cefixime prescription bacterial infections generic vantin switzerland can you take augmentin daily where can i buy sepibest mg provera australia pharmacy elocon drug schedule amoxycillin generic wikipedia drugs where can i get hyzaar pills what is the generic form of cephalexin paroxetine prescription coupon phone in order for decadron healthy mango shake diclofenac 75 mg price order shallaki without rx rosuvastatin online coupon code lamisil looking for microzide shop net can you buy an albuterol inhaler over the counter generic viagra super active cost buy generic doxazosin online purchasing zebeta online uk orlistat canada prescription cloridrato de ciprofloxacino para que serve reviews on estro floxin perth australia baclofen pump patient reviews buy generic hytrin online with prescription buy 36 hour cialis online luvox dose betnovate c for scars online levitra with no prescription cabgolin pills sweat asthma nhs treatment seroflo fda approved to buy without prescription suprax generic canada buy clomid pills in the us meclizine rxlist anastrozolo where can i buy it maxaman dose generic coversyl canada bupropion over counter equivalent order diclofenaco gel ordering buspar mexico micronase without a prescription yasmin usa cvs prices tamoxifen mail order zofran purchase online buy frusemide without a subscription lipitor no prescription canada ugg australia buy online levitra in den usa kaufen where to buy acivir pills in canada safely thyrox over the counter canada metoclopramide drug class promethazine from india ampicillin online without prescription duprost prices
Know how

Article categories

Grow your own

Whatever the scale of your ambitions or plot you'll find something useful here.

Make your own

Reduce your footprint by making your own, from knitting to soap-making to adorning your home.

Livestock and pets

Find out about rearing livestock from the farm to the garden, and doing the best for your pets.

Energy efficiency and construction

Discover how to adapt, change and even build your own home to enable you to tread more lightly upon the planet.

Cooking, preserving and home brewing

From the home brewery to ambitions of chefly grandeur. Find out how to do it all here and really taste the difference.

Wild food

Subsidise the larder in a sustainable way. From fishing, to shooting, to foraging safely, find it among these articles.

Conservation and the environment

Conserve our world for future generations. See how you can help in these pages.

Marketplace

From shopping with a conscience to building your own enterprise. Find advice and encouragement among these pages.

Everything else

Sometimes the diversity of downsizing can throw up an unusual topic.

Editorial

Past editorial items from the downsizer front page.

You are here: Home arrow Articles arrow Energy efficiency and construction arrow Deck on a Hill

Print

Deck on a hill

Written by jema

The Deck on a Hill was built in the year 2000, and I have been looking for another hill ever since. When you program for a living, the chance to play with hammers on a big scale does not come often!

Deck on a hill

Introduction

These pages describe the building of a garden deck on an otherwise pretty unusable slope in my garden. I am writing this a little over 4 years since I built the deck, and hence the photos are mostly of the finished product, albeit with 4 years wear and tear.

But the deck is as solid as ever, and since I started out with practically no building experience, and since a deck as large as this does require some fairly well thought out engineering, I thought it would be a good idea to share the knowledge gained and hopefully help a few others.

Inspiration

Since moving into this house we had failed to make any practical use of the slope at the bottom of the garden. Even getting to the two paths on the slope was a little hazardous as it involved traversing a small section of unpathed slope with a manhole in the middle of it. Early in 2000 I had one of those eureka moments, why not create a deck on the slope? The thought in this case was almost instantly converted into certainty. We would gain access to an unused area of the garden, making it a whole lot larger since as you can see it is a pretty small garden to start with, and since the house is north facing, we would create an area which actually got some sun.

Rarely has an idea seemed so right.

Initial Practicalities

It is all very well being inspired, but in the real world projects cost money. I won't pretend I was hard up at the time, I wasn't. But there were certainly plenty of other priorities taking chunks out of my income and having no savings at the time, it would have put a different completion on things if a loan was going to be needed to do the work.

As such the very first thing to do was to make some form of cost estimate. Exact costing at this stage was immaterial, I just needed to gauge the practicality of things. The deck had to be the width of the garden wide, about 12 meters, and whilst the outward length was up for grabs, it clearly had to be at least in the region of 6 foot (I measure in meters, but tend to think in feet!), anything less than 6 foot would not be a deck it would be a walkway. So the total surface area allowing for the "L" shape to the steps was going to be at least 25 square meters.

What does 25m2 of timber cost? I didn't have a clue. So it was off to Wicks the local but pretty useless diy/building store. I don't buy much from there, as you just have to put up with queues and poor service., but they are on the whole cheaper than many places and hence a good place to start if you want to know some rough figures. This trip told me that I was looking at several hundreds of pounds for the basic decking. Obviously this was just part of the cost, but it did show that the scope of the cost was in the low thousands. It would make a dent in the credit cards, but we were not talking about a long term home loan or anything. There were no good excuses not to go ahead.

Well actually there were plenty of good excuses! I had never mixed concrete before, or even done basic carpentry at school, and this deck would be 5 or 6 feet off the ground. It was not a project that I could afford to do badly, then again it was also the middle of march and still cold and damp.

Getting started

With all the excuses lined up to give up, I tend to think the best thing to do is to show some commitment and make a start. I had no idea at this stage on design, but I did know one thing. It would be pretty impossible to work on a 45 degree slope. Whatever else happened, I was going to need some form of level path. So for the next week or two when weather allowed I spent some time each day cutting a path into the hill about 6 foot out from the wall the deck would be built on to. I made no special efforts to make this path level parallel with the wall and in fact the lie of the land gave it a 2 foot drop end to end.

First Design Ideas

I had next to no idea where to start, but I did see an advert for reclaimed railway sleepers at what looked to be a good price (they were not actually that cheap for the quality, but there you go, it is all a learning exercise). I thought railway sleepers could have all sorts of uses. They could make up the frame work, shore up the hill, even have deck furniture applications. So I bought 14 of the damn things. In a way this was a psychotically move, I had physically broken some earth, but now I had broken into my wallet as well.

The sleepers duly arrived and where amazingly heavy. I guess they are loaded with tar. It was pretty obvious that doing anything with these monstrosities was going to need some heavy duty sawing equipment. So it was back to the drawing board.

Timber frames

Having sensibly given up on railway sleepers, a timber support frame work of some description was required. What type of frame design was still an open question. Heck I could not have told you any of the possible designs at this stage. However, what ever the design it was going to have to be robust enough to take the weight. I needed some tables to tell me what size of timbers to use. The internet was great for this. A quick search revealed loads of links.

Diy Doctor

dprhardwood

Tember Decks

I decided on 8" by 2" joists 16" apart. You can support decking timber perfectly safely with wider joist spacing, and it fact I had a manhole to worry about, where I would need to allow wider access (and it was just as well I did!). But I was planning on starting the easy end away from the "L" shape and the manhole. I figured by the time I had built 10m or so of frame work. I would have learnt a bit and have a better idea of what to do. With 16" joist spacing then the decking board would feel totally solid under foot, with wider spacing of up to 24" you are still safe, but there will be a bit of flex.

On one end the joists would be supported on joist hangers set into some 8" by 2" ledger plates attached to the wall with frame anchors.

On the other end, well I had decided on 4" by 4" posts, but how they would attach to the joists was still a matter of some confusion. Might the posts be very long for example to provide a frame work not just below, but also about to support whatever fencing I put round the deck? I had no vision of what the fencing might be, but there would have to be some, leaving a 5-6 foot drop just is not socially acceptable!

So I kept on searching the net until the answer leapt out at me. The design would be cantilevered. In this model the support posts are sandwiched between two planks and the joists lie across the planks, where they are basically held in place merely by weight alone. The cantilever can be up to 25% of the joist length.

The advantages of the cantilever frame are many fold.

  1. The support posts can be shorter as they will be further up the hill. In my case it rendered the longest posts still well short of the point where diagonal cross bracing would be required.

  2. You don't need to worry about making the tops of the post level with each other. The 8" by 2" planks sandwiching the posts will of course need to be level, but being an inch or two out on the posts, won't matter so long as they are not above the required level.

  3. There are no joints to cut, joints only present more edges that will need treating, and weaken the wood.

This is as far as I went with the design at this stage. I felt confident that this was the way to go. Handling the "L" and the fencing would work itself out in time. But I still had not finalized the dimensions.

Whilst I was feeling pretty confident, I can't say my friends all had such boundless optimism. My good friend from Yorkshire Barry, even bought me a book on timber decking, reflecting not I think spontaneous generosity, but more a concern at the potentially brewing disaster.

How wide can we go?

This was actually an easy decision. Once you did the measuring and once I found out that my timber would come in 4.8m lengths, then 2.4m just under 8ft was not only obvious, but extended the deck size to as one friend put it, "one step short of megalomania". Any wider and it would have been difficult to access the hill below the deck space. It would also have been risking annoying the neighbours. 8ft is a nice size, one hell of a lot better than the minimum of 6ft I had considered the smallest useful size. 8ft is also a big deck. Would such a construction need planning permission?

Planning permission

Four years on and I still don't know the definitive answer to the need for planning permission. Possibly there isn't one. It is easy to be caught out on the technicalities of planning, for example in the UK you cannot erect a shed within 20m of a highway. This rule would catch my shed put up be the previous owners and I'm sure many others in the street as we back onto a road. But I'd be willing to bet that few people have bothered with planning permission. When it comes to garden decking you never see "Ground Force" worry about such issues. Probably it would have hinged on, when does a bit of decking cease being a bit of decking and become a "structure"? and thus subject to the planning laws.

I decided to take my chances, I couldn't imagine the neighbours complaining, I had judged a lot of angles and at most the deck would put a bit of shadow on one neighbours front lawn on a late summers evening.

Timber

You can't build a deck without the wood, by now I knew a little about what I wanted, and a lot of what I had read was encouraging, with modern pressure treating, timber is now a remarkably durable building material. But all told I really only knew a little and one thing I did know was that I wanted a whole lot of timber for this project. Going to B&Q and bringing it home in the boot of the car was not an ergonomic or economic option. I wanted somewhere I could buy from that would be friendly, knowledgeable, local and would deliver. I started going to builders yards, i',m sure they has what I needed, but there was no service, no prices marked and I always felt like a fish out of water.

I managed to pick up 4"x4" posts for my supports but I wasn't happy about buying anything else.

Then my internet searching got lucky, a site established Jan 28th 2000 cropped up. The Timber Decking Company LTD . This company was hidden away on a back road practically on my door step, closer than anywhere else I had looked. The prices were good and there was even a 10% off special offer at the time.

Surely too good to be true I thought, as I made my way there. But no, here was a company where you could talk directly to the owner Gary Collins, a member of the federation of master builders or for that matter his Dad who was helping out, and get a great level of service.

So I put my first order in for joists and joist hangers. Going by the book I guess I should have made clear estimates of all the quantities I'd need in advance. But I did not see the point, so long as each time I ordered I was above the free delivery amount I thought I might as well limit the amount of stuff I had cluttering the garden up, and whilst I was getting a clearer idea of what the project would cost, I was committed to it and did not need or want to worry about the overall financial damage.

The Timber Decking Company did make a silly mistake on the first order, the joist hangers supplied were flimsy things unsuitable for a project of this magnitude. Gary dealt with this in good humour, confirming my belief that they were a decent company to deal with.

So now I had the means to start building.

The Ledger plate

The ledger plate seemed the place to start the actual building. I was busy digging 2ft foundation holes for the posts in my trench, but I figured measuring everything relative to the ledger plate would be the best way forward. The height the ledger plate was attached at was a key consideration. This would define the level of the deck, and we decided a height level with the existing steps would be right. Higher would catch a little more sun, but all the proportions would be wrong, even the steps at the side of the deck would cease to be easily accessible.

The wall itself is worth a mention at this point, as is clear the house is on a slope, a small patch of level garden is supported by a very well constructed brick wall. This wall was not always there, when the house was built the level part of the garden was even smaller and it was backed with a quite shoddy brick wall, which can still be seen. As I understand it, this wall began to collapse and Neil my ex next door neighbour who was a bricky by trade built the new one. He and the then owners did not economise they used strong "engineering" bricks. These are tough cookies as I was to find out.

Given the length of the deck, two 4.8m stretches of 8" by 4" would form the ledger. I marked these out with the prospective joist positions and drilled holes for shield anchors.

Shield Anchor

These we set at diagonals with two holes between each joist position, the levels for the holes were geared so that the corresponding holes in the wall, would be in brick, not mortar. The horizontal positions may also have been geared to miss the mortar as well.

The shield anchors We bought from screwfix direct, who are an invaluable diy supplier. We bought M8/120, the 12cm length being needed to go through 5cm of timber and 4cm into the wall along with 1cm clearance between the ledger and the wall.

Anyone who knows anything about shield anchors may well be scratching their heads at the moment! did he seriously say 1 shield anchor every 8 inches? one of those things would hold an entire housing estate together! well that is as maybe, but in the absence of any knowledge I wanted to be on the safe side. Though I did come to regret it, when the drilling started.

In order to get the wall holes in precisely the right place the plan was to drill in a single shield anchor, attach the ledger board temporarily and mark the remaining positions by sticking a pencil through the pre-drilled bolt holes. This is where we had our first hiccup in the schedule. Each hole took about 10 minutes of hard drilling into the tough engineering bricks. Many thanks go to Eric and especially Simon who got their share of RSI in drilling these holes with my Black and Decker drill.

When finally all the holes were drilled and the frame anchors attached, we put some silicon sealant on the anchors and tried to attach the ledger board. There was no way it was going to fit. You cannot seriously expect two dozen or so holes to line up perfectly. The answer was to use a bigger bit to redrill the ledger holes to give a few mm slack, with this and some vigorous encouragement with a club hammer, the first ledger plate was attached. One important point to note with a ledger plate is that it should not back directly on to a wall where it will trap water and risk rotting despite the wood treatment. We placed some large stainless steel washers on each anchor to create about 1cm clearance. The sealant was aimed at avoid trapped water in such a crucial piece of the construction. Though our bricky friend Neil next door did have a chuckle at this, as well as the number of anchors.

With one ledger done, there was nothing for it, but to do it all over again with the second ledger.

I really can't recall quite how long it took us, but it was easily the most soul destroying part of the entire project. In fact with the exception of digging the holes for the foundation posts, the rest of the construction was great fun.

Finally after much sweat blood tears and an idea that turned into an abortive patent application, we had the second ledger in place. At this stage we may have been drawing a few curious glances, just what the hell is he up to?

Foundations

Once I had decided on the cantilever design, I had started digging some foundation holes in the path I had dug, conveniently this path being about 6 foot from the wall was in right spot. The holes needed to be about 1 foot square and 2 foot deep. There are all sorts of tools for making this job easier and I had none of them. I dug 11 holes a meter apart at the far end, and a bit more than this at the near end. This was as ever totally over engineered, the closer spacing at the far end is intended to provide additional support should a summer house type structure ever be built there. As it is, we have had a gazebo and currently a greenhouse, but nothing permanent has really taken our fancy.

Those holes took a long time, with a spade, trowel and bare hands, next time I hire a decent tool for the job. You can get hole diggers from hire shops, though the usability of these things on a slope did concern me somewhat.

In the bottom of each hole I put a storage heater brick (any old rubble will do), God knows why I still had these heavy slabs, two house moves since I last had storage heaters, but sometimes when you are a bit of a hoarder things do actually come in handy.

So now was the time to concrete in the posts, since my concreting experience was limited, well no existent limited, it was time to draft in my then 76 year old Dad for some hard labour. Mixing sharp sand ballast and cement might not be rocket science, but I didn't want to miss a trick on the foundations. Here is a useful guide on concrete mixes. The first load of concrete was mixed, in a sound demonstration that a life time of gardening keeps you fit and healthy! and the first post concreted in. The post had first been cut to height by using a spirit level on a board balanced on the ledger board out towards the post, and the post itself was kept level using one of those simple but essential tools a post level.These cost just about nothing and make posts an awful lot easier to deal with.

One pole done 10 more to go. But the cantilever design does at least make this part of the build quite a casual exercise, pin point accuracy is not needed.

At this point the work attracts a bit more attention, is it a fence I'm building halfway up the hill?

The sandwich boards

Now we are getting some where, with boards both sides of the tops of the posts, we will have something substantial in place. But how to attach them? Well for a start we will avoid week spots by making sure where was have to finished on board and start the next, we don't have to do this both sides of the same post. That avoids weak spots, but for the actual attaching we have bought a variety of things to try out, coach screws, galvanized 6" nails, and galvanized brackets. Whatever we do, we need to be spot on, checking the level along the posts and also across from the ledger board.

The easiest way I found to do this, was to get an approximate but too low level, attach two brackets at the near and far posts, and then slot the board into the brackets. You can now wedge a few slithers of wood into the brackets to adjust the level upwards whilst you check with a spirit level across and along. I used a meter long level, but longer would have been better, with a short level any warping in the wood may throw readings off, and not help you in spotting the warp. Having found the level I hammered in three 6" nails on each post, and also nailed the brackets fully to the wood. This struck me as pretty adequate to the task.

Working along all was fine until it came to the last post, the first one that had been concreted in, somehow or other it was out of line. and a little bit of creative bodging was needed. I still don't know how I messed up there, I had been using a nylon rope from one end to the other of the path to mark out a dead straight line, as clearly this was the one thing with the posts that had to be right.

With this hiccup dealt with, some structure was now visible, in particular it shed a bit of light on the "L" to the steps, where a long joist span over 3m would be needed and where the joists would need to accommodate a manhole cover. I decide to be as conservative as ever and draft in my Dad to build a little supporting wall below the man hole cover, it can't do any harm and we have plenty of bricks as the old path had a couple of rows of bricks to make a flower bed. We also place a small blob of concrete to support what will be the final joist at the very top of the hill under the steps.

By now a few people are loitering as they go past, I think the penny has dropped, as to just what the plot it.

Placing the joists

Having returned the small and useless joist hangers and bought some decent ones at Wicks, it is time for a lot of hammering, each joist hanger has over a dozen nail holes. But this is were it starts to get really satisfying, very fast progress can be made. In principle with all the effort that has gone into keeping things level the joist hangers and joists can be nailed in place without rechecking the levels, and frankly I doubt there would have been a perceivable difference had I done that, but it takes little effort to check the level joist to joist and out to the posts, and the joist hangers can be hammered in just a little up or down accordingly. I don't think there was movement of more than a centimetre either way, over a 2.4m joist span this is a small fraction of a degree, pretty much as near perfectly level as you are likely to get. Where the joists were balanced on the sandwich boards a light weight "L" shaped bracket was used to keep the joists parallel. The bracket had little fixing strength, but sheer weight is all they need here.

 

As we work along placing joists, it is important to remember that decking boards are going to be laid, where one decking board ends and another begins. As our joists are two inches wide, this would leave 1" for fixing the end of each board to a joist. I am not planning on a fancy pattern to the decking board, just running them in parallel to the wall, with staggered lengths to avoid entire rows of joints. To give more room for the fixing, at points where joints will occur, I nail a second joist to the first. Maybe I should have used a little sealant here, but I did not, arguably the wood is tightly nailed together, and very little water will get down here, it is not like a wall where driving rain will see sheets of water washing down. Water also has a lot of surface tension, it is not that penetrate.

The joists only take a couple of days to complete, I am not commenting much on time scales here, as the work was all carried out whilst I was ostensibly working from home. So a good deal of the work was done on a "Whilst that program is compiling, I'll knock a few nails in" basis. This does not tell me or you very much about how long the job takes. In elapsed time, from the first digging to completion it was a couple of months, but the serious work was more like a few weeks, not exactly "Ground Force", but then I was working mostly alone and without half the tools they use, come to think of it, they might have had a rude shock with the engineering bricks and struggled to do this job in a couple of days!

As the joists expand, it is very gratifying to see people stopping in the street below to discuss and admire the work in progress, some visitors are clearly not just passing buy, they are making a specific trip to see the deck. In the following months there even appears to be a knock on effect with hard landscaping projects in the neighbouring streets, one can almost imagine the nagging in some of the houses, "if he can build that on his own, why can't you repair the wall?". Even Barry's scepticism has evaporated. What is emerging is big, level, and clearly won't fall down short of a nuclear strike.

Topping Off

Here I have to jump ahead a little, throughout the project I have been puzzled over how to do the essential fencing. we have been visiting garden centres, diy stores, fencing companies and looking over some very nice display fencing at our favourite supplier the Timber Decking Company. We have also been spending a lot of money, well over £1000 has been spent already. In real terms this is next to nothing for what has been achieved, but it is putting pressure on the plastic, and we have other fish to fry. In particular we have been planning a three week "holiday of a life time" in the United States, hopping from place to place sometimes meeting with our good friends Barry and Sue who will be on a similar but slightly different tour, for us it will be Washington, Front Royal, Williamsburg, Ocean City, Lancaster, Philadelphia, New York. We have I think negotiated a pretty good deal for the trip, but it is still a small fortune.

So our search for fencing is very budget conscious, we are also aware that the length and wide of the deck does not divide neatly into the dimensions of ready made panels and some fancy work will be needed for a neat result. We decide on simplicity. The fence posts will be 3"x3" slotted into post holders secured into the deck with coach bolts, and the fence itself will be simple trellis.

The fencing company that supply this will not make up of supply the wood for not standard lengths of trellis, but Gary at the Timber Decking Company is as cooperative as ever and gets hold of the wood for us.

So now the decking board can start to be lain, staying a little away from where we want to attach the post brackets and for that matter fascia boards will also need attaching to the exposed joist ends. But all that will be somewhat easier when we can actually stand on a solid deck.

There are three basic ways you can fix down decking, nails, screws and fancy concealed fixing. Nails fired from a nail gun is the way they do it in the trade, very quick very cheap, but once the boards are down they ain't coming off again in a hurry. We have a manhole to cover and we may need to gain quick access, in fact a few years on this precaution is validated as we suffer a real drainage disaster. We decide on screws as our fixing method, a lot of screws! There are 30 joists and 20 deck board in width for most of the deck, needing 2x30x20 screws not counting where boards join or where the deck is "L" shaped to the steps, that is 1200 screws and then some.

How do you fit 1200 screws? I tried a few ways, with pilot holes and using my Black and Decker drill as a power screw driver. But the most productive way I found was using a "Yankee" ratchet screw driver and a gentle helping hand with a club hammer! I cannot over emphasise the difference in productivity a decent Yankee screwdriver makes. I think I'd still be laying the boards now with it. Mine lasted the duration of building the deck, but broke shortly afterwards, but it had earned its cost my then.

The other issues when laying boards are spacing and warping. Deck boards are not perfect and need a lot of diligence to lay well over long lengths. I have no basis for comparison, but I feel the boards we got were pretty good, only one board was particularly poor, and we are talking about quite a lot of board here.

Spacing can be controlled by using 6" nails punched through pieces of card as separators, the card prevent the nails falling through the deck. where there is an issue with warping, a nail or to at the side of the board can temporarily hold it in line. You then work from one end of the board to the other. Working towards the middle with a warped board is said to concentrate the warp into the middle making finishing impossible. This makes sense to me and I did not have any reason to try and find out the truth of the matter.

The Fascia Boards

Fixing these required a little thought, holding up a 4.8m plank with one hand and hammering in a nail with the other is not very feasible. What I did was nail in the few wood scraps beneath the end of some of the joist ends, so I could perch the fascia boards in place for nailing. Sitting on the deck above nailing in the board below did not work well for me, I bent a lot of nails. Working from below would have been very awkward as well though. I guess all these types of skills take a certain amount of practice to perfect, but I never got proficient at this one.

Fencing

With the fascia boards in place I could nail in more bits of 8"x2" board between the joists where the post holders would need to be attached. Nailed on three sides (two joists and a fascia board) this would provide a sturdy support for the post holders.

The post holders where secured with coach bolts driven into a pilot hole with a socket wrench. You need a decent size pilot hole or the wood will split. I attached steps of trellis wood to each side of the posts to provide a corner into which I would screw the trellis's themselves.

At the far end of the deck, two final stretches of trellis was made up from scratch as there was a longer than standard length stretch along and across.

Well there is was structurally complete. Just in need of painting, and crying out for some deck furniture and a BBQ!

Deck Painting

There are a lot of ways to finish off a deck, painting, staining, oil finishes etc. With this much deck to cover we went for paint. A paint finished seems to last two or three years. Initially we went for a wood tone, but then we made the mistake of going for a bluish tone, uncharitably described as "battleship grey" by friends. Getting back to a wood tone is a hurdle we have to cross soon. Aside from the advisability in my opinion of sticking with wood tones as they will be sympathetic to repainting in another wood tone as years go by, I cannot think of much useful to say on painting decks. Though one thing does come to mind. On a small deck I built later, I used fence stain, this said don't use on decks on the tin! But was perfectly good for decks and a whole lot cheaper. This makes me think that manufacturers want to segment the market and charge more for something labelled a deck stain/paint.

Finishing Touches

Perched in full view of the road as it is and with only trellis fencing, the deck seems less like a private area of garden and more like a theatre stage. We build three tables out of the remaining wood and perch big pots with climbing plants, to try and shield the view a little. To date this is still the least successful aspect of the deck. I may yet get radical and tear down the trellis in favour of fancy panels.

We also need plant troughs, furniture and of course a deck like this must have a BBQ. We shop around a lot and settle on a decently sized gas BBQ and some ornate stone troughs. These items cost a fair bit of money, but they will be permanent features of the deck and are worth it. For the furniture though we reason that how we use the deck will evolve and change over time, putting expensive wooden furniture on the deck will constrain that flexibility, plastic resin furniture may not be as attractive, but it has the virtues of being cheap, easily cleanable and disposable. We are now on our second set of plastic furniture and have no desire to change this stance. The disposable approach has also applied to putting cheap gazebos and a even currently a little greenhouse at the far end of the deck.

One of the final touches was electricity, lighting and even a network connection. These items are pretty frivolous though. This is not Spain, Australia or Florida, this is in England, we enjoy a lot of BBQs on our deck, but the number of occasions where it has got dark and is still pleasantly warm are few and far between, the time between lights going on and people retreating inside is always on the short side.

Oh and what of the good old railway sleepers I bought at the start of the project? For some weeks to come visitors were given a pair of gloves and invited to help hump a sleeper down to beneath the deck. Some people might lug these around for a living, but even after all the weeks of decent exercise building the deck I found them damnably heavy. But they eventually got there and were used to help landscape the little remaining slope, including a level pathway under the edge of the deck. It makes a great area for children to play and make a den. As under the deck is accessible, and as it is now easy to get down the hill, the usable garden area has effectively doubled.

Costs

The timber, decking boards, and assorted fixings came in at around £1700. Which was round about the amount I had sort of expected. As I have said I really avoided thinking about the cost beyond estimating it was within reason. Adding the deck has no only given us a lot of pleasure over the last few years, it has also added a lot of value to the house, visible as it is from the main road, the "house with the deck" is one of those houses that is known to people. I won't exaggerate too much and claim it is a local landmark. But such a claim would not be far short of the truth.

Four years later

It is now four years since the deck was built and the only sign it is worse for wear is the current coat of battleship grey paint, which will be dealt with next year. The deck boards over the manhole are a little more uneven in their spacing than they were, since they had to come off and go back down again, and I did not do such a good job as first time round.

The climbers have made slow progress over the trellis and in one case died. No claims of green fingers here. On the subject of the greenery we had a little dispute in the making of the deck about whether to put membrane beneath the deck to suppress plant growth. For most decks this is an absolute must. In this case, what with the north facing aspect, the chalky/clay crap that passes as soil and the fact that the deck was going to be way above it all, I did not see the point, neither did Barry a keen gardener who once managed a garden centre. Conversely my Dad also a keen garden seemed to think we would have plants poking through the boards in no time. Time has now passed judgment, no membrane and no plants poking through either. Grass has re-established itself on the landscaped slope and the wild strawberries have flourished.

The rhubarb that was doing well, but which got a little too underfoot in the building did not make a comeback, and nothing else we have tried on the slope itself  has survived either.

But the main point is the "structural integrity" as they would say on Star Trek, and in this regard there is little apart from the cobwebs in the joists that would tell you the deck was not recently built. I see no reason why it should not stay that way for at least a couple of decades.